Life Lessons with Dr. Bob - Dr. Yan's talk- Published February 22, 2022
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Welcome to another episode in the life lessons with Dr. Bob. My guest today is Dr. Li-meng Yan. Although you may not recognize her by name. You might recall that in April of last year she made international news for her bold escape to the United States from Hong Kong after making claims that the covid virus was created in a bio weapons lab in Wuhan China. Before we start a discussion with Dr. Yan I'm going to give you some background on her story. Dr. Yan as a physician, she has an MD but she also has a PhD in ophthalmology. in addition after receiving her PhD she carried out postdoctoral research in immunology and vaccines for 5 years at the World Health Organization H5 reference laboratory at the university of Hong Kong. and that's where her story takes an important turn. In January of 2020, during her research in that bio lab she was asked by the experts in the Hong Kong lab where she worked to investigate what was then called the Wuhan pneumonia that was sweeping the city of Wuhan. She was one of the first scientists outside of the bioweapons lab in Wuhan to get access to the sars-cov-2 virus which we call now the covid-19 virus. She was able to get samples of that and analyze it. Her analysis led her to conclude that the cold virus was not the result of direct transmission from bats as was previously claimed by the Chinese government, but that it was engineered in the Wuhan laboratory to be a bio weapon.
Furthermore, she believes that the spread of the virus was not the result of an inadvertent lapse leak but might have been intentional. Dr. Yan’s findings were publicly broadcast across China in January of 2020 revealing to the world for the first time that the Covid virus was easily transmitted between humans and as such it presented a terrifying threat to the entire planet. Furthermore and perhaps more importantly, she claimed there was a cover up in place, so that the Chinese government could avoid getting blamed for the virus. Soon after her revelations, Beijing silenced her. She was called a liar and urged to keep silent and be careful. And in a chilling warning she was told that she could be disappeared.
Fearing for her life, on April 28 last year, Dr. Yan fled to the United States to warn the world about her findings in China's plans to weaponize Coronaviruses. Despite the ongoing threats, since arriving in the United States, Dr. Yan has persisted in speaking and publishing technical articles to bolster her claims about Covid being a virus that was engineered at the Wuhan lab under the direction of the CCP. But from the moment that she landed in the U. S., she came under intense criticism by many even in our own country and in our own medical research community. She published 3 research papers supporting her claim, but experts in the scientific community said that the study's claims were more easily explained by political motivations rather than scientific integrity. In other words, they said Dr. Yan was just trying to embarrass the CCP and cause a further rift in the relationship between the US and China the president trump had initiated. But quite recently new evidence has come to light that supports Dr. Yan’s claims, through the freedom of information act. Dr. Fauci's emails have been made public and they indicate that the Wuhan lab was indeed involved in covid research and Fauci even authorized a grant to the Wuhan lab for research into gain-of-function on the original bat virus. Now that you know the basic elements of her incredible story. Let's talk to Dr. Yan and delve more deeply into the details and discover what is happening now. Dr. Yan, welcome to the show.
Dr. Yan: Thank you for having me, Dr. Bob. It's my honor to be in your studio and also have this kind of conversation with you today.
Dr. Bob: Your story is very interesting. It combines your impressive technical accomplishments with ethics, bravery in a bit of mystery and even danger. It is a very complex story, so I have a number of questions for you. but feel free to go on in and in any direction you wish to get to the essence of these stories.
Dr. Yan: sure.
Dr. Bob: Why do you believe the covid virus was engineered and not the result of the direct spread from bats?
Dr. Yan: There are so many reasons and the very clear one is based on the scientific evidence. We have the genome sequence of this virus – Sars-cov-2. and the genome sequence is like human’s fingerprint. So you compare the genome sequence between the known virus and you will see the origin, if it comes from the nature. and also you can see the artificial evidence in the genome sequence, if they're being modified in that lab. So based on my expertise in the virology field, I and my team, we actually identified many smoking guns to show that this virus has been done through the gain-of-function modifications and the evidence left in the genome sequence. That is just part of the functions.
Dr. Bob: Okay, so the principal thing, I would think as a former scientist. you got examples of the actual virus that is spreading around the world. you got samples of that and you compared it to the actual virus that is in bats. and you see there's a difference between them.
Dr. Yan: Yeah it's like that. For the analogy, it is more like for example if you are surgery, very experienced one, and when you see a patient and you will recognize that this nose is after that plastic surgery. and it was made several years ago, because you have it compared between these samples. and do you know this one cannot come out except if you do something to put it in.
Dr. Bob: I understand and having friends with plastic surgeons, very good example. Now why do you think that it was intentionally released rather than just by accident?
Dr. Yan: There are many evidence pointing to that. For example, the basics thing is that I worked in a biosafety level 3 lab and which is similar to the lab in Wuhan, they have biosafety level 4 or even higher. and I can tell you, these kinds of labs have very strict protocols. because people know they are doing very dangerous work inside. and I can take an example of my lab. I worked there for several years involving a lot of dangerous work and we have surveillance system. and also everyone you get trained, you get background checking by the government to show you a safe. and the when you go to the lab to do the experiment, you need to change all the clothes and you go out and you have to take shower and again change the clothes. so that means the only alive creature that can come out from that map is human. There is no chance that for example when people talking about animal study, there is no chance that the animal can be sold out if they have came into such lab. They will be cooked in the high temperature procedure, come out as cook the meat, even if they are not infected. and the virus or other passages, if you want to bring them out, they have very strict procedure and you have to inactive it, which means you kill it. and of course, we know there were some records happened like in Singapore, in Taiwan or in other places. They show that there was some lab accident. However, such lab accidents will be controlled in time, in a very strict way. And no government would do something like what the Chinese government has done to make up the evidence, to make the cover up to put the military there to cover up all the things, to cheat the world just because of one lab accident. And more importantly there was no patients. I mean no people get infected from lab in Wuhan at that time.
Dr. Bob: It could have been an accidental discharge, no?
Dr. Yan: You have to have these accidents first. Who has done that? If this is an accident, because it's a highly transmissible virus, the person handling it, and the people around, if he gets infected, the other people are at high risk. and we haven't got any evidence and actually based on my intelligence, there were no people who got infected.
Dr. Bob: So no people in the lab, in the Wuhan lab. Let me understand the difference between them. your lab was doing basic research on various kinds of viruses and immunology, so you are very familiar with this kind of work.
Dr. Yan: We do something like involve very dangerous virus, because my lab is the top emerging infectious disease lab in the world. and we have the best scientists for Coronaviruses, influenza or such kind of viruses.
Dr. Bob: Why does China have 2 labs, one the WHO lab you were in, in Hong Kong and another lab in Wuhan
Dr. Yan: China has more than 2. I mean if you're talking about such high biosafety labs. My lab is definitely the one has the best quality in the world. and is based in Hong Kong, have a very good reputation. And that's why, the outside, the international scientific world, they won't realize that actually my lab turns out to be an international bridge between the scientific world and the Chinese government and the military. And the also the biosafety lab like biosafety 4 lab, there is not only one in China. In Harbin, in north east China, close to North Korea, there is also another one. and it's also a military-civil fusion lab. and they're doing the high pathogenic avian influenza virus study and other relatives studies. and also China now, even since the outbreak, put more money, billions of money, to make more biosafety or higher labs in China. Why do they need so many labs? The doctors, they call me, said “we don't know what we can do. we don't know anything about this level of lab.but we know we get a chance to get the grants from government to build such labs. so we need your help.
Dr. Bob: Let me repeat again, so you have colleagues still in China, and they're asking you, you know, we are in discussions is saying, we just got our information from the CCP from the government saying we're interested in giving you grants to open another high level laboratory to study viruses, is that correct?
Dr. Yan: It is already confirmed that it was the last 2 year early in Feburaty 2020, for example because I have a very extensive network there, from military to civil scientist and even reach to China CDC headquarter office. So some people called me that they need our help, because it already got 2 billion RMB which is like 300 million US dollars, and the China government wanted to build the BSL-3 lab in that hospital within half a year and they have no idea how to handle such laboratory, so they need our help.
Dr. Bob: I see, so again the lab in Wuhan, who did it report to? Who ran that lab?
Dr. Yan: Actually that institute is one of the leading virology institutes in the Chinese military-civil fusion network. Military and also surveillance scientists run it together. So that's why when the outbreak happened in Wuhan actually even from February 2020, people in that institute already knew that that whole institute was fully taken over by the military. and later on, I think all sides also heard about the news.
Dr. Bob: And you mentioned earlier with me that you've studied documents about bio weapons. tell us more about what those documents say.
Dr. Yan: There are a lot of things we can talk about these documents, so first I had obtained a lot of documents from the military and government in China.
Dr. Bob: This is not recent. this is while you were in China.
Dr. Yan: For this document, actually, I started to study it since I came to America. because previously, I showed scientific evidence and intelligence about the things. and later on my team had discovered a lot of such evidence and they turned to me. and I went through and I know more about the strategic developments.
Dr. Bob: Tell us about this
Dr. Yan: briefly, the Chinese Communist Party wants to develop bio weapons and that is not a secret. even back to right after World War II that new China was established. The Chinese government took over the part left by the Japanese military. They studied bacterias right? so they took over that. They even got some scientists from the Japanese military. and then later on during the 1990s, when the Soviet Union broke down, some of the Russian scientists came to China, and they also helped the Chinese government to learn the technology. However, because bio technology developed very fast in the past 20 years. and when the Chinese government focuses more in this field, they realize that this will be one of the best strategies for the Chinese government to achieve their goal in world dominance.
Dr. Bob: I see. So in other words, the Chinese government realized that through the weaponization of viruses and bacteria, they could infect enemies without the enemy ever knowing where it came from.
Dr. Yan: That's the way they want to do it. That is why from the end of 1990s, China has realized that World War III will be a bio-warfare. and they have mentioned it in their military speech. and also after that because you know there is a bio weapon combination treaty right? China has been involved in the treaty since the 1990s, so they note he can not do it openly, because they're under surveillance. However, the Chinese government is so sophisticated and cunning, so they managed to study these laws and also study the biological system. and they try to find the weakness and they manage to escape all the supervision.
Dr. Bob: sure! If you think about missiles it's rather easy from space using satellites to see where people are building, where countries are building missile launchers and things like that, or if they are producing nuclear weapons. It requires a huge facility so all those things can be easily seen from space, using satellites. but nobody knows what's happening in a laboratory, and you can't determine that from an easy way.
Dr. Yan: People can say that, because they published the articles. however, the thing is that if you are building a military base and the other countries are very sensitive to these. However, in the scientific field, we talk about exchanging knowledge. and the biology because it developed very quickly, the law cannot catch up with the speed of the development. Gain-of-function is always the issue.
Dr. Bob: Yeah, you can always say you're studying it to make sure that you can cure it, if it ever happens.
Dr. Yan: Exactly! you always can show you have good purposes.
Dr. Bob: Yeah, good intentions, I understand.
Dr. Yan: and also China really focused on learning the problem that happened in the system. I can give you several examples. For example, China studies weapon conventions, and then they realized that from 2005, many countries talk about that， we need an observatory organization, so at that time they pointed to the World Health organization as the only surveillance organization. What China has done is that from the next year 2006, they manage to promote the Hong Kong doctor Margaret Chan to be the general secretary in WHO.
Dr. Bob: Okay, let me repeat that again to make sure I understood. so sometime in the 2000s, when everyone realized that biology is expanding very quickly probably because they probably understand genetics of course. They said all the countries agreed, we're going to have to have an organization to observe to make sure every country is obeying, and is following the rules of this bio weapon organization. it's going to follow the rules. and then China said Okay that sounds right. and we will maneuver the head of that inspection organization as one of us.
Dr. Yan: Yes. Later on, in some conferences of the bio weapon convention, they also said we need more observatory organizations, for example NIH, like U.S. army medicine and medical institute, University John Hopkins. If you go into the records, you will see after that how much effort the Chinese government has put to infiltrate such organizations. For example, when I talk about the origin of the covid came from the military lab. In John Hopkins university, some scientists jumped out quickly to deny it. they're helping China and China's effort to show the result
Dr. Bob: China has influence over those particular doctors over that whole John Hopkins lab? or both?
Dr. Yan: They can never control all of the people, but they can control the influential people all manipulate to influence them.
Dr. Bob: And you have evidence to show that? I mean did they get grants? I see. okay
Dr. Yan: There are a lot of connections and I revealed that in some of these in my three reports. For example, when CNN, at that time, invited some scientists like Robert Gallo from Maryland University. He is the big titan in HIV study. His study helped Dr Anthony Fauci to become the director in NIH in the 1990s. Robert Gallo is also one of the biggest guys, together with John Hopkins, at almost the same time, jumped out to deny and suppress my claim of the lab origin or the virus. and his claim has no scientific explanation. he's using that the propaganda style to beat me. and He has his institute in China from early 2000 named after him Gallo institute in China. he has business with Chinese government in Hong Kong. and the right after he did all the things attacking me, He got a big award from the Chinese government at the end of 2020.
Dr. Bob: Unbelievable how much influence they have in this, unbelievable! Now getting back to the release of the virus from the Wuhan weapons lab. if it wasn't by accident, then it was intentional. Now why would the Chinese, when I say the Chinese. I mean the CCP. why would they release a virus for which they didn't have a cure. wouldn't they know that their own people would be killed by it.
Dr. Yan: First, the Chinese government thought it was under their control because they underestimate the high transmissibility of Covid-19.
Dr. Bob: Let me, let me think for a minute, so you're implying that they let it out to test it on humans, to test it, to see how fast it would spread.
Dr. Yan: to optimize it.
Dr. Bob: I see… then change it to make the vaccine even more dangerous is that correct? Why would they test?
Dr. Yan: It won't be for the vaccine. It can help to develop the vaccine. because on one hand they do the virus, on other hands, they developed the drug and the vaccine. However, based on their strategies (described in the CCP’s documentary), what they wanted to do is to finalize the virus, to know some results happened in humans. and they thought the virus was under control. I can tell more about these. because a lot of evidence clearly showed that from at least early 2019, the Chinese government has changed the arrangement of the system like institutes, biology institute, hospitals in the military. and in 2019 from early that year, they started to do a lot of military drills (military combined with the CDC) especially in that province and in Wuhan city. At least 5 times of this kind of military drills. they had different collaboration with different hospitals CDC and others.
Dr. Bob: They were preparing by doing these drills, they're preparing for the actual release of Covid-19?
Dr. Yan: They have clearly mentioned that this is prepared for the world military games at the end of October in Wuhan. They have emphasized the novel coronavirus in the drills, they claim that there will be imported cases to China with novel coronavirus. so they practice the way how to handle, how to control, how to do all these things for the new coronavirus.
Dr. Bob: So they thought that they knew how to control the new covid-19, is that correct?
Dr. Yan: They predicted that there will be novel coronavirus come out in the world military games.
Dr. Bob: That was at the end of 2019, and then it was exactly when the virus started in Wuhan, is that correct?
Dr. Bob: I think right around after that (World military games), it happened in Wuhan. I can tell you more evidence. One thing is that the Chinese government made the biggest and also the first this kind of practice after Sars-cov-1 in 2003. In the middle of 2019, to practice emerging disease can happen in military garme, almost over 8200 people, all over China joined this practice. So China was actually treated very seriously. and another case is in that PLA's document.
Dr. Bob: What is PLA?
Dr. Yan: People's Liberation Army. CCP’ military. They have clearly mentioned in their strategies, especially the strategy to use coronavirus as a novel genetic weapon to target humans. We can think about the big gatherings like the Olympics, winter Olympics and other games, because a lot of people come from different areas of the world to one place. and when they leave, they carry the pathogen all over the world. And you can not find the origin.
Dr. Bob: Frightening! Tell me now about your decision to leave. you must have been under observation by the government, because you made these claims publicly. you thought you were doing everybody a favor by saying look this is easily transmissible between humans and looks like it was engineered. and so I would think that you were followed or they're watching you. How did you manage to escape?
Dr. Yan: Actually the moment I decided to tell the world. I concluded that it was from the lab, because there is smoking gun evidence I already found at that time. I know the government because they had done artificial surveillance against people. so I mean at any minute I can be disappeared. I already received a warning. However, I just want to deliver a message as early as possible before I'm disappeared. Since I started to deliver all this message, the 5 main messages through Mr. Lude’s media at that time. At that time, the Chinese government was covering up the outbreak in Wuhan. So after 4 hours, when Lude’s broadcast was on, the Chinese government had to admit that. It was mid-night in China. They had to admit that the case's number increased from 62 to 198. They also admitted that there were more cases happened not only in Wuhan but other big cities in China. The second thing is that I told people that there was human to human transmission that already existed, but the Chinese government doesn't allow you to know that. Actually the government knows that even in December 2019.
Dr. Bob: So up until then,maybe still to now, they believe they are claiming that the virus was transmitted from a bat
Dr. Yan: No. Before that, they claimed this is not transmitted from human to another human. That means it's not infectious among humans. So people won't realize the danger of this virus. And public health and control management will be totally different. That's why I reveal it. Before that even the WHO told that don't worry, no transmission from human to human!
Dr. Bob: So you were the first person to reveal that it is going person to person
Dr. Yan: I'm not the one to reveal it, because they already know it in December 2019. but I'm the first one to reveal it to the public and to the scientists.
Dr. Bob: How did you know or how did you come to the conclusion?
Dr. Yan: because I went through my own extensive network In China. From other people from the CDC office, from military labs, from the local hospitals, all of the things reflect back to me and I can make a judgment, because I am the expert in this field.
Dr. Bob: So you must've heard that many of those people were never in that market.
Dr. Yan: The Chinese government won't give diagnosis to those who deny the seafood market. and they are just left in the hospitals. They were not accounted for.
Dr. Bob: I see, okay I understand.
Dr. Yan: The third thing is that the seafood market is the smoke screen and also there is no animal intermediate host. so that means this is directly for human to human. At that time to try to blame something like a civet cat, raccoon dog. These are all lies. And they just try to make you believe that it was from animal to human, because we Chinese people eat animals.
Dr. Bob: I see, I see.
Dr. Yan: The fourth thing is that if the Chinese government does not control it in time，there will be a bigger outbreak and even bigger pandemic all over the world soon. and there will be endless variants circulating among people and that's what we have seen now.
Dr. Bob: Okay, so you made those revelations in public either through YouTube or through discussions. how did you invade the Chinese Communist Party of the military or the police? How did you avoid getting caught?
Dr. Yan: I was anonymous. The only people at that time who knows my identity was Mr. Lude. I'm lucky, I know I may only have one chance to try to find someone who can deliver the message out, to give the Chinese government the warning to push them to respond and to stop such things.
Dr. Bob: I see and of the viewers there is an individual who's up who's an influencer in on YouTube China's version, Chinese version of YouTube, it's in the U. S. in his name is Lude de L. U. D. E. and if you speak Chinese or Chinese that you can watch him, he's a yeah very well watched by the American Chinese community, I'm pretty sure you can't watch him in China, is that correct? YouTube you can't see him in China?
Dr. Yan: In mainland China, NO. People who listen to Lude media in mainland China will be put in prison.
Dr. Bob: Okay, you've answered my question: that's how you're able to get on a plane and come to the United States.
Dr. Yan: So the thing is I keep doing this from the 1/19/2020 up the first time the message is delivered, until the end of April.
Dr. Bob: and then during that time you reported to your superiors right? you have a boss and in your institute in your laboratory you you from what I understand you told them this is how I see it and what did they say to you?
Dr. Yan: Actually, I keep feedback the messages to my bosses. and my boss Leo Poon and also my big Dr. Malik Peris who is the very top of the top one coronavirus expert and also the emerging disease doctors in the world. They know this, however, they choose to cover up it with the Chinese government. and then later on I realized Malik could even get involved as an international bridge to provide knowledge and help the Chinese government manipulate the misinformation campaign. So they are not innocent. That's why when I got the conclusion that the virus came all from military labs with the genetic evidence at that time, they keep silence, they delayed the time and warned me again and again that if I don't keep silence, I will be disappeared. no one can help me. I know I won't trust them. so I did all by myself and then later on to reveal these things, including how these people help Chinese government. You know that in early February Peter Daszak from eco health in America organized a paper published in Lancet. So there are 27 scientists including Peter Daszak all over the world, they said the letter told people that the virus is from nature and anyone who claims a lab origin is a conspiracy. My boss Leo Poon signed it and my boss Malik Peris received it, but Malik is more sophisticated so he didn’t sign it. But he's doing more things behind. So that's why I'm the first one to reveal to the world through Lude media right after they published this letter. I said this is a lie. and they are using their international influence from the top medical journal to suppress the discussion about the origin of Sars-cov-2.
Dr. Bob: Okay, so I and how did you get into the United States? did you have a visa? yeah because normally getting into the U. S. from a foreign country especially from a Chinese or Chinese related countries difficult. so did you have a visa to you you just bought a ticket and flew and landed him in where LA?
Dr. Yan: Actually I was lucky at that time. I am a Hong Kong citizen and also I have a valid US visa.
Dr. Bob: You already had it because you've been traveling to the U. S. for conferences and things
Dr. Yan: Also that there is no travel ban for Hong Kong cities in America, but the mainland cities cannot come here. Especially at that time right after my escape, the Chinese government got angry, and they posted a national security law in Hong Kong. And I got help from Mr. Lude, also I got help at that time from a foundation that we thought it was anti-CCP. And they provide me the tickets from Hong Kong to Los Angeles and later go to New York
Dr. Bob: Is this a U. S. foundation?
Dr. Yan: it is a non profitable foundation established by a billionaire who claims he was anti- CCP in America. His name is Miles Wengui Guo. and he has done a lot of the broadcast in public to show that he is anti-CCP. and we also thought he was anti-CCP at that time. However, since I came to America, I got the chance to know him more. And the more I know him, the more I and Mr. Lude realized that he is actually a CCP agent.
Dr. Bob: This story gets more and more complicated. That doesn't mean it's not true. Frankly it probably means it is true. The Chinese are dedicated to take over countries. you know they're making moves against Taiwan. there the there of entering a Taiwan airspace. It is not a good time. and unfortunately the current administration in my view, is not taking China seriously, or as seriously as the Trump administration did. so you think that Mr. Guo who initially helped you is actually working for the CCP
Dr. Yan: Yes, at that time, I didn't have any direct contact with Guo, and Lude thought that Guo is anti-CCP. and There is a foundation established by Guo, so he can help anyone who's anti-CCP.
Dr. Bob: So that's perfect because then you can identify who the enemies of CCP are. anybody connected to that new foundation. It's a trap, a wild trap.
Dr. Yan: At that time some people in CCP, they got the information that I will escape, so they managed to try to disappear me in Hong Kong. And I was lucky to avoid the poisoning. And on the other hand, this side, Miles GUO, he thought that if he helped me go there. He can hold me in his hand and he thought that I am a girl. so it is easy to manipulate me. and He even thought that there would be some network behind me, so he could dig out and also report to CCP. So he can get more awards from CCP. however I didn't let him win and he cannot manipulate me as he expected. This year he realizes that he's in trouble. And more evidence comes to me that he is actually helping the CCP. And under the help from the people in America, for example Colonel Lawrence Sellin and other people from the intelligence department, and other people I don't even know who they are, I managed to escape from this kind of attack and harm launched by mile Guo and CCP. I cut off all the connection with him and I also realized how dangerous this person is, how dad he is. and I'm helping the relative department to provide some evidence I know about his criminal things.
Dr. Bob: Where does this individual live? Does he reside in the United States or China? Where is this person?
Dr. Yan: He is still in New York and that foundation is still in New York and they try to show that they are anti-CCP, so they can get close to conservative parties, like president Trump at that time, and they tried to use this way to ruin the reputation of the conservative party's.
Dr. Bob: Complicated! Okay, get back to your trip. so you got on the plane, then you landed in LA. Was anything special about when you landed you went through customs immigration and then got a connecting flight to New York. what happened when you landed in LA
Dr. Yan: It's like the movie, so when I land in Los Angeles. I went through the customer very smoothly, and I went to get my luggage. At that time, I see 2 customs officers waiting for me, they say: “come with us”. I know as a virologist, every time I come to America for a conference, they need to ask me a lot of things and double check my background. They are very well prepared, actually. They asked me a lot of questions. Finally I think I have to tell them why I came to America. and so I tell them why I came to America because I'm the whistleblower. I told them I was a whistleblower of the Covid-19, I said I'm the only one who claims it is from the lab as an insider. They ask me for evidence. I said there are some evidence about my discussion with the people in China in my phone and also many evidence is here, it is in my brain. They brought my phone and they check it. After hours they brought the FBI. and the FBI told me we believe you but we need to verify it. would you like to talk to us, if you can convince us we will let you take the fight to go to New York. I said okay and I actually was very happy, because I finally saw the alive FBI agent. and I explained to them and basically they understood what happened from my confidential investigation to what I revealed in January. we think he is the time you need to go to take the fight to go to New York would you like to help us when you go to New York to do the further investigation？They took my phone for duplicate and they return it to me within 2 days mail it to me. They came to me and said do you need our help? I say yeah I need your help. I know that this is called invisible protection. The FBI company with me to go to do the checking for the next flight and I went to New York very well and then later on the FBI from Los Angeles flew to New York to give my phone and also introduce the New York FBI to me. A FBI from Los Angeles airport came to New York she wanted to meet me at that time and the I told her to meet her the next day. but she seems to be in a hurry. She came to my apartment in the night (funny story …Actually, the FBI wanted to talk to Dr. Yan and she was in hurry, so she went to Dr. Yan in the night…..).
Dr. Bob: So because of your revelations you can't return to China because your life will be at risk up so it seems to me that that you should easily qualify for asylum visa did you talk to them about changing your visa because under a visitor visa which is what you have you have you can only stay I believe in 90 days and then you have to leave so what. Did they help you get did they give you any information or any assistance in and then staying in the United States you would think they'd want you to stay here
Dr. Yan: I don't want to stay in America with illegal status. I haven't got the further progress from the immigration department which I don't know why. because I get feedback that FBI confirms that I am highly credible and just because CCP agents actually like Miles GUO had to threaten me in public that CCP and they can do anything to disturb my identity, my status in America. and this is that they can do this through immigration system the can brought me back to China overnight. I don't know what exactly. I'm now just waiting to see what will happen. and because I'm busy with pushing the anti-CCP and also revealing the Covid-19 truth, pushing this, all the things forward. I didn't spend much time in discussing or handling these issues
Dr. Bob: Yes. it's important that you have other things that we've. Given that you've been you've made your revelations the major revelations that the Covid-19 was a was designed in the laboratory, in a military laboratory, was probably according to intentionally released, so you've made these very important revelations damaging to the CCP. you've made them in public this isn't the first time you've talked about it you've been on CNN you've been on Foxnews.
Dr. Yan: Not on CNN, CNN did not give me the live broadcast. They sent me the request and I said because you are the TV and I don't trust CNN. Except for the live broadcast I will not accept your interview. and then they just published the fake news without contacting me.
Dr. Bob: All right and I understand but certainly Tucker Carlson told the story. perhaps you're safe now from the CCP, because there's nothing there's nothing more for you to say probably, maybe
Dr. Yan: So they call that this is a high profile, this is a high profile you are. However, based on the intelligence report from America, I'm the individual who gets the most attacks from the CCP government, maybe the top one. so the Chinese government definitely does not want to see me keep working on this. so they are using other ways rather than directly killing me by CCP. They want to use other ways, for example, they are using my family members to conduct the fox hunting project. so Fox hunting is like China government has this project and the target is the fox. So whoever they want to bring back to China, they use their friends or family members to cheat them. and in this way during the process they can handle the person and bring them back to China or disappear them outside. And I received the intelligence that warned me that my husband was sent to America to do this kind of job. He will do emotional killing which is won’t be suspicious for public. because between couples, to make me disappear.
Dr. Bob: If you haven't seen your husband, he's in the U. S. now?
Dr. Yan: because after that, with their help I'm hiding.
Dr. Bob: yeah. Smart! smart! Now, your recent interview in the daily signal which is a news website for a very prestigious organization the heritage foundation, interviewed you and all of a sudden that entire interview which they published, if people want to send that to other people on Facebook, it's not allowed disallowed on Facebook, now yes I can understand why the Chinese Communist Party doesn't want your claims to be broadcast, or to be publicly available but why would Facebook banned you other than a it's it's almost as if they're doing the dirty work of the Chinese Communist Party.
Dr. Bob: Facebook is not the only big tech to do this kind of dirty work for the Chinese Communist Party. China Communist Party is very rich and they brought money from our Chinese people, poor Chinese people, and use the money to corrupt and manipulate the big techs, not only Facebook but like Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, all these kind of social media , if you won't talk about that thank me since valley I mean really make Chinese government painful, especially, the truth of virus, you will see that you are suspended, though you are labeled as misinformation. Also this kind of company together with the mainstream media like CNN, New York times, and Bloomberg ,Wall Street journal, so may some people inside, they are contacting the censorship and the propaganda for a Chinese Communist Party, and the we called it actually this is part of strategies for the communist regime to achieve their work dominance by suppression brainwashing and also silence others. This is not a surprise because it's also part of the biggest strategy that was organized by the communists for decades.
Dr. Bob: So what is what is in the future? what do you plan to do now you've made the revelations as much as you can. What more can you do to help Americans wake up to the threat from China?
Dr. Yan: That is a very good question. There are a lot of things we can do and I believe that the first thing is When I decide to come to America at that time, I believe the hope is in America. And that is a place where we can solve the pandemic, we can end this kind of evil plan, the hope is in America. When I came to America after over one year and especially recently I've been to the tour speech with the Global Covid Summit Team and a lot of frontline doctors , and we have met people from Hawaii to Alaska, face to face, I give them this kind of evidence. I realize that the real hope is the American people, the brave American Patriots, the American people who have the strong faith and the people who understand the value of freedom and democracy and human rights, who know that American constitution. who want to stand with that to protect the next generation and the future of humans. So this is the hope. I'm doing is to help people to understand how evil the Chinese government is. the evidence, especially the truth of Covid-19. How they made that virus, how they develop other things in their labs and how they released the virus, how they used misinformation fake evidence, censorship, mandate, all these things to control you, to turn you into their slaves. and how could we what could we do to end it. I'm providing this kind of knowledge and evidence to people, and I hope to see their courage because when we all stand up to fight against the evil communism ideology with our courage, we will have more and more power. and I believe that one day we will win. and on the other side I what time focusing on aids I want help American because China wants to turn America into China. I want to help Americans to turn China into America. We Chinese people do need such understanding of the western civilization of the faith. They need to know that god is there and we need to love people. Communist is totally anti-god, anti-faith and anti-humanity. and we need to end such ideology. If not, they will turn to other names and keep working all over the world to bring damage. We want to bring the new future to China to Chinese people with a better future as the people in America and Europe. and we will have that kind of peaceful and a safe future. So all this is what I'm working on with others now.
Dr. Bob: Well, unlike the United states where we have the guaranteed freedom of speech, in China, there is no guarantee of freedom of speech. on the contrary there is a guaranteed and non written guarantee that if you speak out against the Communist Party or say anything that is critical of China or the CCP that you'll be punished. Perhaps even disappeared. You spoke at the start of the epidemic and you continue to speak out now despite the threats in the intense criticism that may damage your career. and you do not for profit or for any of the motive, but the only motive you have is for the benefit of mankind by revealing China's production of bio weapons in an attempt to really influence the entire world. You are a brilliant researcher but even more importantly, you're a very brave lady. I want to thank you for coming on my show. It is an honor to have spent time with you today, Dr. Yan.
Dr. Yan: Thank you so much Dr. Bob, I know you have done a lot of things also to help people understand the value of freedom, courage and the also understand the human rights. , you have a very deep understanding and you have a very good vision in the future. so that's why you have put a lot of effort into this field. I really appreciate all the efforts you have put in. and I believe people like you will bring a lot of things to influence others to make them understand what happened, and to warn them what to do to prevent that damage in the future. This is so so important. It is my honor that I can talk to you about all these things. and I know that there are a lot of things going on and me and my team and my friends, the people behind us, the brave Chinese people and we are working together with Americans . We work together and that's the power of truth and power of courage and power of faith. and I believe and I do believe that we will win in soon future. because God want human live on the earth and this is the way to keep humans safe.
Dr. Bob: Thank you so much again for your bravery in your perseverance. Please don't stop
Dr. Yan: Thank you, I won't (stop)